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Kansas City Google Fiber customer here and I have been tinkering with Ubiquiti for a bit as a hobby. I replaced the crumby Network Box with an EdgeRouter 4 from Ubiquiti and I got it chooching to 970 down/up. The EdgeRouter 4 has an SFP 1g port and I was thinking how great it would be to put in a transceiver and terminate the fiber myself.

I've read that Google uses the Fiber Jack terminating as both a Fiber-to-Copper ONT and a "hop" for 802.1x authentication. The latter has been harder to get information on, but the former can be done by a cheapie cheap SFP transceiver module plugged.

Can anyone with experience in this point me towards an answer? I'd love to get rid of that awkward and hot Fiber Jack.

27 points · 23 days ago · edited 23 days ago

I work at an ISP that supplies gigabit internet over GPON (Not in the US).

While I can't say with any certainty what Google's policies are, I highly doubt Google would be supportive of you messing with their equipment/network.

We do not appreciate it when our customers mess with the ONTs. They’re designed to be left alone, and don’t have any customer accessible config.

To the customer the ONTs act as dumb bridges to hook their routers up to, but on the back end they are doing a bit more. Just a few examples: We can identify on our end where traffic is coming from based on info the ONTs append onto every packet that is sent to us, check whether an ONT is powered, whether the fibre cable has been severed, the optical signal level, whether there’s a device connected to LAN port X, etc.

In addition, the OLTs are set up to only allow properly provisioned (either by the technician during the install, or remotely after the install) ONTs to connect. Even if you did get a brand new ONT of the same make and model and hooked it up, the network would detect the differing serial number and treat it as a rogue device.

Any rogue devices detected on the PON are ignored by the OLT, and a flag is raised internally to notify that an unauthorised device has been connected to the network. That flag could result in a technician being despatched to search for the rogue device, especially if said device is doing something that puts the network’s integrity in jeopardy.

In the event a customer does mess with the ONT, it results in interactions with our care team that otherwise would not have happened (My internet stopped working, I don’t know what happened and am conveniently omitting that when I removed the ONT from the wall I severed the fibre splice hidden within the ONT wall mounting bracket).
ISPs at the end of the day are businesses, and would prefer to be spending resources dealing with genuine customer problems, rather than ones caused by people who know just enough to cause problems.

If you were to try and connect an ONT not supplied by your ISP, you’d need to do it in a way that the device you do connect can fully emulate the original ONT. Anything else highly likely won’t give you any connectivity, and will generate warning flags on the ISP end.

TL;DR: from an ISP perspective, don't fuck with the ONT. If you do and break something, be prepared to pay (materials, labour, admin, potential fines) for whatever you broke to be fixed. Also be prepared to be cut off entirely from the network, as there’s the potential you’ll violate the TOS trying to connect your own equipment to the PON. Just use the ethernet port already on the ONT for your own router and be done with it. :)

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Original Poster0 points · 23 days ago

That was interesting to read. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

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2 points · 23 days ago

Funny, and I do would ANYTHING to get google fiber IN to my house, and you want to get it out.

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Original Poster0 points · 23 days ago

Do you know what a Fiber Jack is? Google it.

-4 points · 24 days ago

I’d get a mesh system and hardwire them. Ubiquiti’s Amplifi system allows you to do this if you get two or more of the routers. The mesh points don’t allow wired connection but are great if you can’t do the wiring.

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No don't. It will cut your bandwidth in half due to the nature of the uplink technologies. Really only do mesh in homes that you can't run at least a little CAT6, like a leased apartment.

Configure same SSID on each AP with same passwords. Just different channels to stop interference. Keep the radio power down to allow the clients to "roam" from AP to AP and not hang on to further APs, increasing interference.

You have a disease. Just like me. You know you’ll end up with a full UnFi setup anyway, so save your money and just give in now...

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Yep I just got a 8P 150w poe switch, EdgeRouter 4, and 2 APs. All Ubiquiti. And I have a gig fiber link that I never utilize more than 40% except when I run constant speed benchmarks. I don't need this and my wife reminds me. I just tell her it is for work since I'm a Network Engineer and I get away with it.

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Kansas City Google Fiber customer here and I have been tinkering with Ubiquiti for a bit as a hobby. I replaced the crumby Network Box with an EdgeRouter 4 from Ubiquiti and I got it chooching to 970 down/up. The EdgeRouter 4 has an SFP 1g port and I was thinking how great it would be to put in a transceiver and terminate the fiber myself.

I've read that Google uses the Fiber Jack terminating as both a Fiber-to-Copper ONT and a "hop" for 802.1x authentication. The latter has been harder to get information on, but the former can be done by a cheapie cheap SFP transceiver module plugged.

Can anyone with experience in this point me towards an answer? I'd love to get rid of that awkward and hot Fiber Jack.

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Kansas City customer. I replaced the crumby Network Box with an EdgeRouter 4 from Ubiquiti and I got it chooching to 970 down/up. The EdgeRouter 4 has an SFP 1g port and I was thinking how great it would be to put in a transceiver and terminate the fiber myself.

I've read that Google uses the Fiber Jack terminating as both a Fiber-to-Copper ONT and a "hop" for 802.1x authentication. The latter has been harder to get information on, but the former can be done by a cheapie cheap SFP transceiver module plugged.

Can anyone with experience in this point me towards an answer? I'd love to get rid of that awkward and hot Fiber Jack.

Nice. I wish they would buff the tommy. Just give it the same size mag as the ppsh. It runs outa ammo so fast

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Right it is a more accurate Waffle, but that is by design.

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I am looking for instruction on a simple script that I can assign to a button on my mouse that will maximize/minimize a running program [SecureCRT]. The best I have created is a script that opens a new instance of the program maxmized, but that is only half of what I want. Plus I don't want Python to run a new instance every time I click the shortcut to run the script. Can someone throw me in the right direction?

4 points · 1 month ago

If you are using windows, look at autohotkey software.

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

Yes that works...but moar Python!

ASR1000x or hx series will do plenty of encryption, but they're not cheap.

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they're not cheap.

That is an understatement.

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Hey err'yone,

I have Google Fiber and recently threw out the trash that is their network box for a Ubiquiti solution in the Edgerouter X and a UAP AC Pro access point

My house is a ranch style home. The fiber jack in in my basement [they are always in the worst places], which is also my office for when I work at home and so is the EdgeRouter. Now the AP is connected to the only wall patch in the house on the 1st floor and sitting on an end table, but I want to hang the AP from my ceiling, and possibly add a second to mesh 802.11ac better.

The facts of the case:

Wall mounting is not an option!

The AP is 48v POE and that is taken care of and I have no problem making long cables, it is getting through floors that I am worried about.

I pretty much know that I need to run a cable to my attic [not easily accessible >.<] and punch a hole for the Cat6. I am not too sure how best to get the Cat6 from my basement to my attic, though. Does anyone familiar with ceiling-mounted APs in homes have any suggestions?

Much appreciated! This subreddit has helped me a lot.

I guess I’m lucky when my house being built I asked for two conduit from the basement to the attic otherwise I would have the same issue with my APs.

Only thing I can suggest is what the other folks already mentioned. You say ranch style is it one floor only? Are you able to bring the cable out and run it to the top and drill back in? You can always run conduit outside the house that’s how we did our surveillance camera Ethernet feed on another house.

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

That is actually not a bad idea. I will try just putting the cable along an outside wall and drilling back in.

You sound unfamiliar with home construction topics.You may want to hire a local electrician to pull the Cat6 from the basement to the ceiling.

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Original Poster0 points · 1 month ago

I was hoping to avoid that >.< but I might have to.

13 points · 1 month ago

Sweet! I usually use:

C:\Users\zpuls> curl checkip.amazonaws.com | clip
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Can someone explain why I just get the IP with curl checkip.amazonaws.com but with | clip I get a mini bandwidth test?

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Is the default controller layout a good choice? Lately I've noticed that my reaction time on pulling the right trigger to fire is taking down my TTK and I don't really like pushing the stick down to Sprint.

Any recommendations?

4 points · 1 month ago

Sterling works best if Hip-fired ! No joke, put the hip-fire barrel on it, ext. mag, rapid fire . . . don't ads, hip-fire high . . weird head-shots happen . . seems more accurate from the hip !! Hope this helps, Njoy !

Also, if bored, try to clear the "Achievements" and camos . . work on crazy stuff . . Use "BaseBall Bat ONLY" or something dumb, die a lot & laugh . . Change it up, play the stuff you never play, then go back to what you usually do & it'll seem better !

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Yep it hipfires Inna straight line. I can't explain it but once you use it you understand.

STEN, been using the Thompson more lately and gonna pick up the Sterling today.

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The Sterling is very good. He look and sound is great but the fact that it hipfires straight as hell is a major plus

Warmachine is better. The new maps are a blast.

Knew that ITRA burst nerf was coming. RIP that I didn't play with it much pre-nerf.

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The frustrating thing is that to the casual player, it is not even close to an elite weapon.

Best hipfire SMG in my opinion.

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My company has over a hundred customers that are connected with Easy VPN-enabled routers. I really don't want to get into detail about why we use them [I know EZVPN is shite] but the TLDR is that some customers don't want to get a static public, can't terminate a site2site on their own, and have an ever-changing PAT address that can't be reliably set as a peer for NAT-T.

Those EZVPN c881 boxes [and Easy VPN] are getting EoL so we are replacing them with ASA-5506x's that are running IKEv2 Dynamic Crypto Map VPNs. An issue we saw with our c881s running Easy VPN is that the tunnels would drop when the clients stopped sending interesting traffic through the tunnel and we would have to reboot the router to get the tunnel back up. No bueno. A workaround was to set up a small service that sent continuous ICMP traffic, but this is a pain in the ass. Another workaround was to blast NAT-T keepalives on a short timer.

I feel like we will see similar results with our DCMVPN tunnels. Before we plaster our standard configuration for this new hardware, are there any methods of configuration on the 5506x that can ensure the SAs won't drop when the clients behind the 5506x stop sending interesting traffic to our remote network? I was thinking SLA tracking to hit our remote network, or enabling a dummy SNMP trap on the management interface to sent a dummy alert to our remote network when a 'tunnel down' syslog message is generated.

From Wikipedia:

A security is a tradable financial asset.

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There is a Chrome extension called Wikiwand. It is amazeballs. You hold control and click on a word and it opens a widget with the summary of the word taken from Wikipedia.

Yeah well my dad made the game so ur banned now.

Quentin Tarantino ending: And the petunias had a deep, thought-provoking and polite conversation with the father and the woman, then they all pulled out pistols and blew each other's brains and guts out, which was witnessed only by a bank robber hiding in a treehouse in the yard across the street.

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"Do you know what they call a petunia in France?"

What firmware are you looking to use?

But SHG never gives us anything and is greedy about everything

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