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Hi all,

This post is intended to be a one stop aggregate of content related to the CCNA R&S, new users are encouraged to look through this post before asking these common post topics. Because I'm lazy I'll be copy and pasting relevant sections from other posts as needed :)

Can I use older versions of the study material?

No, at best you'll get basic information but you'll be missing topics, reading about topics you don't need to, and could generally not learn a topic well enough. It isn't worth trying to save money since failing the exam is much more expensive than some new books.

Saying that some video courses are still worth while, CBT nuggets for example has plenty of CCNA related series such as their CCNA packet capture course that is still good info though out of date.


Discount Exams

You can occasionally save some $$$ by buying a discount voucher, a discount voucher is a voucher that is expiring sooner than a ordinary voucher, the less time left the more it is discounted. For example a CCNA voucher with 3 days left might get 50% off.

I have used these sites before and they work well.

www.itexamvouchers.com or www.getcertified4less.com

The Exam Change

CCNA 2.0 is being retired on the following dates:

100-101 ICND1 Last day to test August 20, 2016

200-101 ICND2 Last day to test September 24, 2016

200-120 CCNA Last day to test August 20, 2016

A common misconception is that ICND1 is a prerequisite for the CCNA, it is not. Rather the ICND1 earns the CCENT certification and the CCENT is the prerequisite for the CCNA. This distinction means that you can write the 3.0 ICND2 exam even if you have passed the ICND1 2.0 exam.

Exam topics

100-105 - ICND1 3.0

ICND1 Exam topics

Here is a summary of the changes in the new version:

Removed:

  • RIP is now the sole routing protocol in this exam.

  • IPv6 Dual Stack was removed in favour of transition techologies

  • CEF has been removed from the exam.

Added:

  • High level knowledge of Firewalls, Access Points, and Wireless Controllers

  • Awareness of Collapsed Core architecture

  • Configure and verify IPv6 SLAAC

  • IPv6 Anycast addresses

  • Knowledge of LLDP

  • Troubleshooting DNS and DHCP related connectivity issues

  • Understanding Syslog

  • Device management


200-105 - ICND2 3.0

ICND2 Exam topics

Removed:

  • Frame-Relay (HOORAY!)
  • VRRP and GLBP (BOO!)

Added:

  • Knowledge of IWAN
  • Basic eBGP
  • VPNs: DMVPN, Site to Site, Client VPNs
  • Understanding the Cloud
  • Understanding SDN
  • Using APIC-EM's Path Trace application
  • QoS

200-125 - CCNAX 3.0

Composite 3.0 Exam topics

All in all some pretty fair additions and only a couple questionable removals.

Should you take the composite exam?

The short answer is....no, probably not.

Generally speaking the composite is only for the experienced network professionals who are used to certification exams. It is really meant for convenient switching to the R&S track from say Juniper. Why not take it? It's just considered to be a much more difficult exam because:

It doubles the number of topics you can be tested on, this makes it so you must have mastered everything in the CCNA since it is fair game. This also makes repeat attempts harder since the question pool is large enough that if you do badly on say IP Services, you might instead get a security focus the next time. You have a smaller margin of error: with ICND1 and 2 you can get say...10 questions wrong to pass with the minimum score so you can get 20 questions wrong and still be a CCNA. With the composite you can only get 10 wrong before failing

There is less padding questions, icnd1 may also you 10 subnetting questions but the composite may just ask a couple and move on the next topic. This makes things harder since your more likely to hit a hard question rather than get a few easier ones.

Cisco assumes your a network professional so they may hit harder than with the other exams. Based on my own observations from watching this sub and talking to people, I would say a junior has about a 90% fail rate for the composite and it typically takes them about 3 tries to pass it. Incidentally they also tend to be bitter with Cisco after paying for so many failed exams. Long story short, it isn't worth it, I should also point out that you get the same CCNA no matter what path you take. The only difference is that with the two exam method you get the CCENT as well, which means you can get up to two kitty gifs!

Reading List

Books by Odom and Lammle remain our recommendations for this CCNA version, you should read both to get both perspectives on topics. Generally Odom is considered to be more dry and technical and Lammle is more readable and approachable.

Home Lab

There are two main options for a home lab - physical and virtual. You can also mix and match as needed.

Because of the new version it is recommended to try to use IOS 15 in all your physical gear so you can utilize the modern features that IOS brings to the table. The router models don't matter all that much since features at the CCNA and CCNP level are mostly the same, you also don't need to worry about serial modules nearly as much because serial is a very small topic now.

Model numbers matter with switches though, you should aim to get 3 or 4 Cisco 3560 switches so your lab will last you well past your CCNA R&S studies, though you can pick up a some L2 Cisco 2960 switches if need be.

For virtual you have 3 main options

  • Packet Tracer - a mostly functional emulation tool that meets most of the CCNA requirements, it requires very little resources or technical knowledge but only supports just enough IOS features for you to pass the CCNA.

PT 7.0 is out now and can be gotten for free from Cisco.

  • GNS3 - a functional solution that runs real IOS images, the downside is you need to get your hand on IOS images. It also doesn't have native support for most L2 features.

Here is a blog post I wrote about setting it up end to end:

Mastering GNS3

  • VIRL - this is the most resource heavy option but its benefit is that Cisco provides IOS images to you.

Here is the post I did about VIRL:

Mastering VIRL

Exam Tips

Remember there is no back button so always read the question until you fully understand what it is asking you and you know what technology it is testing you on before answering.

If you can't think of an answer within a minute consider picking the best answer and moving on. You are unlikely to correctly figure out the question after thinking about it for another minute and will likely talk yourself into a wrong answer. You don't have a ton of time in the exam!

For people with a bit more IT experience, remember the context and level of the exam. There are many solutions to problems in the real world and at the end of the day the CCNA doesn't get too deep into topics. Keep the exam topics in mind when answering a question...for example if Cisco asks what device would run BGP? Then the answer would be a router even though most devices can support BGP these days from hosts to servers to firewalls etc. The reason why is the CCNA v3.0 only teaches about basic eBGP on a router so Cisco isn't going to expect you to know that Windows Server can do BGP.

The Best Answer

People also have a lot of issues getting used to the concept of the best answer. Like the BGP scenario above you have to keep the context of the question in mind, a router can indeed use a switch module to act like a switch and a L3 switch can act like a router etc but if they ask what device is best for switching then it will be a switch.

The Cisco Answer

The "Cisco Answer" is something that keeps popping up over and over, and in my opinion is drastically overblown and misunderstood in most cases. Basically it is the claim that Cisco wants you to answer the question their way as opposed to the industry correct answer. Generally this seems to be feed from the pitfalls I mentioned above:

An example of an old Cisco answer was back when other vendors first started supporting CDP and if you were asked if CDP only ran on Cisco you had to decide if Cisco was expecting you to know that polycom phones could do CDP. But generally those types of questions are gone in the R&S track at least (I'm told the wireless track needs more time in the oven)

The other place it comes from is when you are multi vendor and/or have a higher knowledge/experience level then the exam your writing. A simple example might be if they asked you how many link state routing protocols are supported by Cisco, a CCNA will probably say 1, whereas a more advanced candidate may answer 2. But considering CCNA doesn't mention IS-IS then 1 would be the CCNA correct answer. The trick is you have to keep your exam level in mind as your writing it.

Finally there is the obvious actual Cisco answer where if they asked you what OSPF's Administrative Distances is? Now on Cisco it is 110/110/110, on Juniper it is 10/150, and on HPE it is 10/150/150. So in this case they are looking for the Cisco right answer but that only really can affect you if you are multi-vendor.

Question Marks and Tab

Sim's generally have support for the tab and ? but it can be limited if Cisco decides to remove them to make sure you know how to do a task or if they simply just don't fully implement them since the sim is just a flash animation they have to program. It is also worth noting that even if Cisco does give you full functionality, you would still need to know the full commands since Cisco can just straight up ask you syntax questions.

Practice Tests

The Boson practice tests are highly regarded and tend to be of similar difficulty or more difficult than the actual exam.

New topic posts

I'll try to keep this updated as they pop up but here is the current posts that are cover the new topics

What is Metro Ethernet

What is MPLS as a WAN Service

What is BGP?

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Meow 🐈🐈Meow 🐱🐱 Meow Meow🍺🐈🐱Meow A+!
1 year ago
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Hi all,

With the exam cutoff looming there have been a ton of questions lately about if people should take the composite exam. The short answer is....no, probably not.

Generally speaking the composite is only for the experienced network professionals who are used to certification exams. It is really meant for convenient switching to the R&S track from say Juniper.

Why not take it? It's just considered to be a much more difficult exam because:

  • It doubles the number of topics you can be tested on, this makes it so you must have mastered everything in the CCNA since it is fair game. This also makes repeat attempts harder since the question pool is large enough that if you do badly on say IP Services, you might instead get a security focus the next time.

  • You have a smaller margin of error: with ICND1 and 2 you can get say...10 questions wrong to pass with the minimum score so you can get 20 questions wrong and still be a CCNA. With the composite you can only get 10 wrong before failing

  • There is less padding questions, icnd1 may also you 10 subnetting questions but the composite may just ask a couple and move on the next topic. This makes things harder since your more likely to hit a hard question rather than get a few easier ones.

  • Cisco assumes your a network professional so they may hit harder than with the other exams.

Based on my own observations from watching this sub and talking to people, I would say a junior has about a 90% fail rate for the composite and it typically takes them about 3 tries to pass it. Incidentally they also tend to be bitter with Cisco after paying for so many failed exams. Long story short, it isn't worth it, I should also point out that you get the same CCNA no matter what path you take. The only difference is that with the two exam method you get the CCENT as well, which means you can get up to two kitty gifs!

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CCENT
7 hours ago

Just took my ICND1 test today. Gotta say, I was sure I failed, but I ended up with 897/832. Halfway through the test, there was a question where I should have read thoroughly. An instructions page came up. I read it and I click next. Needless to say, I should not have click next. I had skipped 4 questions easily worth 100 75 points. My heart dropped when the screen moved onto the next question. I was sure I was going to fail considering I only took 900 925 points worth of questions in a 1000 points test. I had to get 832/900 832/925. Basically I had to get 90%+ 90% to pass.

Moral of the story, TAKE YOUR TIME, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND DONT CLICK NEXT UNLESS YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR ANSWERS!

Other than that I used cbtnuggets, Todd Lammle and his practice sims. And also a little bit of the ccna command guide book.

Edit: i had 54 questions. simple math says 4 questions would be worth around 75 points. so i guess i lost out on 75 points, not 100. My bad

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Hey Guys,

Just a quick one, I recently passed my ICND1 with a 956 score. I am now in the process of looking into the ICND2. How much harder is ICND2 when compared to ICND1?

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If you pass the ICND1 exam do you HAVE to take the ICND2 or can you go straight for the CCNA Security or Wireless?

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Hi everyone, i wanted to ask is there any networking lab i can do online, cause i got an intern offer today and was asked about my CCNA ROUTING AND SWITCHING i didn’t do the exam yet and they didn’t care if i am certified or not,but then i have been asked if i do networking labs ? My answer was no, so i want help about what networking labs and where i can do them . Thank you .

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I want to hear how you guys keep fresh.

I passed the CCNA almost two years ago when I was heavily into Routing and Switching through my work. Currently I am working more with Wireless and RF in general, I still need to do some Switching and basically no Routing at all.

How I would tackle this is to just pick a random topic, fire up a lab and configure away to see what I remember then use Google-Fu and old study material to fill in the gaps.

Keen to hear what everyone else does/would do?

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I know the transport command has an implied deny, does this mean by default a router would likely allow protocols such as as ssh or and telnet?

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I passed my SECFND on Friday and am only a handful of chapters into SECOPS. How much overlapping content is there? Or am I just really far behind?

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I have all the equipment including the cables but no clue how to cable everything. Is there a resource someone can point me to to help explain it? I understand I’ll have to move cables around but what’s the initial setup or configuration?

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Hi Sorry for the title i couldn't make up something better. My question is what would happen if a wifi client did the following 100 times for example Connect to WiFi access point Get IP Disconnect Change mac address Back to step one!

Would it be able to get 100 different ip addresses ??

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Hey guys can anyone recommend any audio books for the ICND2? I walk to work most days which is about an hour of walking so I could really use an audio book to squeeze in this walking time.

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Ip http server If we combine it with secure server it should be safe ?

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CCENT
1 day ago

Super stoked right now! Like a lot of you, I really thought I was failing it. There were a handful of questions that seemed out of no where. They must give partial credit because I doubt my guesses were 100% correct.

Sources: CBTNuggets, Odom's official cert guide, Packet Tracer, Boson practice exams.

This marks a career change for me, time to brush up that resume. Any advice for someone trying to break into IT with no prior work experience in the field?

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I passed the exam yesterday and I thought people might appreciate some insight on my preparations and the exam itself. I have only used the network academy for studying and an occasional forum post here and there, when things got blurry. Don't know why, but I see a lot of people talking badly about netacad. Ok, I agree that it sometimes gives the reader the impression of reading a commercial for cisco services/products and occasionally diving too deep on subjects that are either not important/in use anymore or don't matter for the exam itself. But other than that, I thought it was very well written. Now, onto the exam: I was surprised by the questions I got. I honestly think that half of my questions were from the ICDN 1 course, and they went into great detail in them. The other half were a lot more 'normal', so to speak. If anyone has any questions regarding the exam or the preparation I had, I'll be glad to answer them!

Cheers!

PS: 30 minutes before the exam, I found this subreddit and the first few posts were all about how the composite is hard and that a great deal of people fail the first time. Excellent motivation before an exam.

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Passed the ICND1 in April and I’m taking the Sec+ in a couple weeks. My original plan was to then immediately start working on the ICND2 in hopes of being done by October, but I’m feeling seriously burned out and not sure I have another 3 months of continual studying in me. I’m seriously considering taking an extended break and picking back up in the fall/winter once I’ve recharged a bit.

All that said, how long did you all take between the exams? Most posts here seem to indicate people jump right from one to another but I’m curious how many people take a break/hiatus between them.

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I posted this in r/ccnas also but there are a ton more people here.

I'm using an ASA 5510 with ASA 9.1 and ASDM 7.6(2) in my home lab and I'm not understanding some of the ACL functionality when setting up a Service Policy Rule in ASDM.

I created a new policy, chose an interface, create a new traffic class, and chose "Source and destination IP address (uses ACL)." On the next screen, under Destination Criteria, when I hit the button to choose a service, none of my manually created service objects appear. Same goes for the right sidebar. When I'm on the Service Policy Rules screen the sidebar shows none of my created service objects. As soon as I click on Access Rules they show up again.

For a bit of background, I'm trying to set up a policy on my DMZ interface to limit the connections to my PRTG server (in the DMZ) running on https port 8443. I created a service object for port 8443 which I've already used in various ACLs. But when I went to use it for the service policy ACL in the SPR Wizard it wasn't there. Within that wizard I only have the option of creating new groups.

Is this by design (and why?) or is this some kind of bug?

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Hi there,

I've got a summer between classes of doing nothing so I was thinking about putting my Cisco knowledge to use and taking ICND1.

I have plenty of networking knowledge and skills, so my overall knowledge of networking in general is good enough to pass.

However, I know nothing about the exam itself. I was wondering if people who've recently taken it can help me out. I would just like to know a few details and perhaps some tips/hints

  1. What is the format of the exam? (quick-fire questions? online or written?)
  2. Is there a practical part to the exam too?
  3. What is the areas you'd need to know most about?
  4. What study guides/videos/resources helped you the most?

I know it's been asked so many times before but it'll be nice for me to compile all your recent experiences and answers to help myself out

Thanks peeps

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Ive lagged, but finally got my CCENT.

I used netacad classes 1&2.

Odom’s ICND1 book.

Scheduled the test and took about 3 weeks of studying. After the netacad classes and Odom’s book I felt confident.

I really feel you gotta just schedule the test or you’ll never take it.

Study the key topics, really pay attention to details, and don’t be afraid of failure!

Wish you the best,

On to ICND2!

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Hi All,

How is INE when studying for your CCNA R&S? The plan is to straight away move onto CCNP post CCNA cert.

I have managed to get my company to pay for it.

Appreciate any advice! Cheers

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What's the difference between pagp and lacp. I know they have different modes but..... What's different?

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I tried connecting two switches with two physical cables, then turned them into a port channel active, trunk. Afterwards I set up vtp server and client but there was no updates at all. I finally connected a single cable between both switches and set as trunk, which worked. My theory is that vtp doesn't go through ether channels....... I think

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Networking Student-Practicing for CCENT
2 days ago

Has anyone used this as a study/practice source?
It appears to be legit and the setup looks pretty easy to comprehend for a beginner, but I wanted to see if anyone has had some experience with it here?

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After many months of maintained studying, today was the day it all came to a head!

I managed to pass my ICND1 even though I was convinced that I failed it upon clicking the submit button.

My studying mainly rotated between the Netacad online material, Cisco Packet Tracer and practice questions.

I'd be quite happy to answer any questions you may have :)

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I'm hoping someone can give me a hand with this:

So I have a network of 2 2600 routers, both running RIPv2 between them which I have verified using ping to be working.

They're connected like so: [Internet]--(Plusnet)--(R1)--(R2)

I've connected the central router (R1) to the ISP provider device (a Plusnet hub) and given the interface on R1 an IP from the Plusnet's IP range. I can ping the internet from R1 using this interface.

I then set up a static route of last resort on R1 so it should be sending everything out of that interface to the Plusnet box.

But now my issue: When I do a traceroute from R2 to the internet, my packets get stuck at R1 and I get no further. I think this is because the provider device doesn't have the correct capability for what I'm trying to achieve, but I'm not sure and was hoping someone could help me find where my issue lies. To make sure it wasn't RIP, I made a static route on R2 to R1.

The Plusnet is a cheap version of the BT Hub 5 if that's helpful, but I'm not sure if what I want to do is going to be possible.

Cheers

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I've always found it useful to study by creating practical cases for me to understand. I have created a scenario that has recently peeked my interest.

Network Logic Brainstorming

I want to manage several customers.

I plan to create and IPv6 network to integrate their different IPv4/IPv6 subnetting.

The idea is, I would be able to centrally manage multiple customers' systems and networks. ie patch management, SIEM integration, etc.

Some issues I'm having includes a customer that has two geographic locations using the same IPv4 subnet. Is there a way for me to logically network these as two different geographic locations for the same one customer?

I have some years of experience in network and systems but formal network knowledge is limited to my CCNA. So, any ideas or resources that could point me to best practice for this would be incredibly useful!

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So i got a couple of resources i can choose from:

  1. Odom Books
  2. Chris Bryant Udemy course
  3. Lazaro Udemy Course
  4. Network Academy

I was thinking of using network Academy for its Labs, but read Odom's book for the content

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