Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts
Posted byCCNA Wireless3 years ago

WIFUND 200-355

Has anyone taken the new CCNA Wireless exam? I am just curious how much it differs from the old cert guide. I have to have this cert by review time end of next month/beginning of Dec. I just took the 640-722 and failed miserably. It was nothing like the material I studied in the CBT Nuggets series or the Official Cert Guide. If the new test actually covers that material, I would rather just register for it than attempt 640-722 again.

85% Upvoted
This thread is archived
New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast
level 1
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 4 points · 3 years ago

I have taken this exam this year.

I would 100% agree that CBT nuggets totally failed on this one (and honestly most series, but particularly this one) in providing the necessary information. Particularly the coverage on WCS was abysmal. That's just a start. I could go on and on.

I would 100% disagree that the exam didn't reflect the OCG. I actually reread 4 chapters yesterday, and it's spot on. I'm sorry.

I would also agree that the amount of testing WCS vs coverage in the book is unbalanced, but the blueprint clearly states that WCS is 17% of the exam. This means if you get 60 questions, 10-12 may be on WCS.

I'm sorry you failed. I really am. However, going for the new exam because you failed the old isn't a viable solution. You're hoping for a shortcut or a secret method that the new exam gives you. There isn't one. The failed exam shows a fundamental lack of knowledge necessary to pass the exam. While I recognize there are times Cisco screws us all over ( I'm looking at you ROUTE, or how CCNP security STILL doesn't have OCG after two fucking years) this exam was not one of those times.

Buckle down. Refocus. Re study. Re test. The new exam is actually going to be harder as CCNP material rolled downhill.

And maybe this last part makes me sound like an asshole, but I didn't even get tested on things I thought I would get tested on. Learning how a LWAP searches for a WLC or how to setup a WLAN isn't hard stuff. The hardest parts are the damn protocols and standards which barely made it into my exam.

level 2
CCNA WirelessOriginal Poster2 points · 3 years ago

I don't think you sound like an asshole. My main issue is that the exam focused on stuff that I felt inadequately prepared for based on what I read/watched and I realize this is my own issue, but we are running code revision 7.6 and Prime 2 (soon Prime 3.0). I guess I felt being that I've seen both of them that PI is not THAT much different from WCS as far as menu structure, etc. I felt fairly confident going in that I would have no issues, but I found that was definitely not the case. That being said, it almost makes more sense for me to test on the newer exam (due to what we are running), hence my question in comparison to the old.

level 3
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 point · 3 years ago

Im running on prime 2.0. If you use the classic menu it looks identical to WCS. Prime 3.0 doesn't have that feature.

I'm also running 7.5 (among others). There is nothing at the CCNA level that even called a specific code set out. There are no changes that would affect you.

In CCNP, it calls for There are major changes at 7.2 and 8.0 that have to do with QOS, but nothing so much as to fail an exam. The newer code adds features, not takes them away. Or it changes menu layout for advanced functions ( for instance advanced eap). I've actually been doing my CCNP wireless on 8.0 code rev.

I still don't see where you're having a problem, particularly at the CCNA level with prime 2.0. It can't get any easier. Wait until you hit CCNP wireless.

level 4
CCNA WirelessOriginal Poster1 point · 3 years ago

I always use classic mode, which is why I didn't feel it would be that big of a deal. Truth be told, our instance of Prime leaves less to be desired. It's inaccurate and doesn't update quickly, but that's a tale for entirely different conversation. I'm not in control of it since I work for an MSO our servers team and OSS teams manage the app and VM. We have a weird setup.

At any rate, I guess my point is fairly unclear. Maybe what I'm ultimately getting at is the way the questions are worded is down right ridiculous and maybe that's what threw me for a loop. I appreciate the time you've taken for your response.

level 5
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2 points · 3 years ago

There are known issues with Prime in older versions.

There is also a very specific Matrix of code set that prime works with. While some devices may come online, (with regards to showing up in prime) there are things to don't work right unless code versions match.

That's probably my continual MSE issues.

level 6
CCNA WirelessOriginal Poster1 point · 3 years ago

I gotcha there. I do know our revision will not allow us to monitor the new 2700 series APs, however 3700s are fine.

level 7
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 point · 3 years ago

In not familiar with the 2700 series. Actually didn't know about the 3700 series either. Still on 3600 myself.

That's odd to me, because the WLC controller code is what determines what APs can actually join the controller. I'm spit balling here because I'm not looking at the compatibility matrix. It would seem to me if you AP could joint the WLC, that, assuming prime can mange the WLC, the APs are just along for the ride.

You should get some show version outputs for curiosity sake.

level 7
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 point · 3 years ago

Looking at the matrix...

7.6 minimum code on WLC needed for both 3700 and 2700 series AP. However, it's slightly different code.

7.6.100 for 3700

7.6.120 for 2700 series for 2702i-UXK9 (universal regulatory domain. Not sure what country you're APs are in).

Prime 2.1.1 is necessary to support WLC 7.6.100

Prime 2.1 minimum to support WLC 7.6.120

However, some of the features aren't available for every platform. You need to be on prime 2.2 to really have the full support for WLC code sets, although your WLC should be at least 7.6.120.

level 5
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2 points · 3 years ago

Cisco is also know for asking confusing test questions. Two of my four CCNP wireless exams were the worst in that regard. Particularly CUWSS.

I'm no Cisco VM SME, but I'd like to know the issues you're having with Prime, especially if you're just using it as a front end management system for wireless stuff (and not using MSE). At that point, it's just an SNMP device that receives traps and set configurations. It's pretty basic.

level 6
CCNA WirelessOriginal Poster1 point · 3 years ago

We are basically using it as an NMS. I believe we have only one location that has MSE, but as far as performance goes the AP statuses are not updating in a timely manner. An AP will check back into a controller and the status will not update for several hours or sometimes even a day or 2. My group does not manage the app and Cisco was engaged and advised us to make a few changes to the VM, but I don't believe our servers guys made those changes. At this point, we are testing PI 3.0 and there's really no point in trying to "fix" 2.

level 7
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 point · 3 years ago

I don't know enough about your setup to comment. I know earlier prime's had struggles. However, I am running a version of prime that is incompatible with my version of MSE and WLC, but I still get my NMSP communication. My APs still update with location and such. It is tracking about 1000 sq feet, but it works.

level 2
CCNA - Net Security Admin2 points · 3 years ago

WFUND is going to be a completely new animal, also. There is ~0% official study material for this exam yet [except directly from Cisco's website] out there right now and OP's best bet to start studying for that would be to get a CCNP Wireless Site Survey book and as you said, buckle down on the fundamentals. Sounds exhausting to study new sections for a previous exam you failed.

Or OP can take 3-4 hours a day and retake the exam in a month. I think this is the better option. Good luck OP!

level 3
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3 points · 3 years ago

It's not going to deviate much from the old. For instance, I've looked at the old and new security OCG.

There are clarifications, explanations changes, better organization, and updates to the newer Cisco stuff (ISE vs acs). We aren't talking about sweeping changes like when the CCNA was moved from 640 to 100:200.

level 1

I took the exam yesterday and I'm still coming to terms with how bad my results were. I studied the official cert guide and got a subscription on CBT nuggets, studied for 2 months. I used the questions in the book as a guide to see how well I was doing the day before the test and got an average of 9/10, walked into the test like a boss to see that the questions were orders of magnitude more complicated and in-depth than what I expected. I have the RS CCNA and some other certs that aren't from Cisco so I feel like I can compare difficulty levels.

I am OK with failing, but it feels like honestly there's no way to pass this fucking exam. Add to that that its 250$ and I have no way of getting a WCS license, yeah. Fuck you Cisco... This is an entry level cert, a lot of people in this thread (and Cisco) seem to forget that.

level 2
CCNA WirelessOriginal Poster2 points · 3 years ago

Couldn't have said it better myself!

level 2
alphabets1 point · 3 years ago

did u take IWUNE or WIFUND. THere's no OCG yet for WIFUND, that's the exam this topic is discussing....

level 4
alphabets3 points · 3 years ago

yes, now there is, there wasn't when this discussion commenced.

level 1
2 points · 3 years ago · edited 3 years ago

I used the CCNA Wireless 640-722 official certification guide to prepare and failed, but it’s not the training, it’s the test. It doesn’t follow the guidelines of objectives published by Cisco.

Through the book and accompanying CD-ROM I learned a tremendous amount about 802.11 networks which will be of great use to me in working with wireless networks. Unfortunately it’s of no use at all for passing the 640-722 test. While the book carefully followed the exam objectives and guidelines, the Cisco exam itself did not. To make matters worse the test questions were poorly written and there were no simulations, only multiple choice. Cisco really laid a rotten egg with the 640-722 test.

The question now is has Cisco addressed these issues in the new CCNA Wireless exam? If I pick up a copy of the new CCNA Wireless 200-355 official cert guide from Cisco Press will I actually be preparing for the 200-355 test? Or is it going to be like many of us have experienced with the 640-722 where we sit down in a testing center and by the 3rd question wonder if we have been given the wrong test?

level 2
CCNA WirelessOriginal Poster2 points · 3 years ago

I certainly felt that way by the third question. I did pass it the second time around, but am actually curious to see what the new test holds. I am starting a Master's degree January 6th or I would consider taking the time to go through it and schedule the test. You bring some very valid points though. I feel that asking someone where something is located in some random GUI menu does not accurately measure their understanding of deploying wireless networks. Every person I've asked that's been certified (even non-Cisco) agrees that it's completely ridiculous.

I feel I also struggled due to how my company chooses to divide the various functions of deployments. I do not design the network or choose what equipment is deployed, however I am expected to configure and support it.

level 3

And those GUI menus are often not very logical or there are multiple ways to arrive at the same option. The real problem is the multiple choice. If you want to see if I can configure a WLC, then give me a GUI and let me configure it. Don't give me a multiple choice.

Community Details





Create Post
r/ccna Rules
No posting of illegal materials
No posting of braindumps
Be courteous and helpful
Don't ask others to complete your labs
Mod - CCNP
Meow 🐈🐈Meow 🐱🐱 Meow Meow🍺🐈🐱Meow A+!
sale-70-410-exam    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-HP2-B118-date    | It-Exam-000-056-Date    | Vces-C9510-052-Date-Exam    | Answer-70-354-Certs    | Answer-210-065-Dumps    | Answer-E20-510-Vces    | It-Exam-G2700-Answer    | It-Exam-200-125-Exam    | Full-HP2-B95-Vces    | Dump-VCP510PSE-Marks    | It-Exam-500-285-Marks    | It-Cert-MB4-212-Marks    | It-Pass-SPS-200-Cert    | Pass-3300-Exam-Apply    | 24h-200-105-Dumps    | 365-Online-101-Exam-Cert    | Pass-EX300-Exam    | 24h-Help-HP2-Z14-Dump    | Professional-VCP510-Exam    | It-3301-Cert-Pass    | Certs-C-TBW60-74-Plan    | Training-200-125-Current    | New-Exam-CCNA-Dumps    | CISCO-Exam-200-125-Online    | UDEMY-CCNA-Video    | Learn-CCNA-200-125-Exam    | Network-CCNA-Dumps    | Practice-200-125-Exam    | CCNA-It-Exam    | Gratis-2V0-621D-Exam    | Test-2V0-621D-king    | Cert-Killer-2V0-621D-Exam    | Exam-300-070-Test    | Brain-300-207-Exam    | Exam-CCNP-Learning    | Education-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certification-Exam-Prep    | 1Z0-062-Certification    | Becoming-1Z0-062-Exam    | For-All-N10-006-Exam    | Tech-300-115-Exam    | Exam-300-115-Labs    | Training-300-320-Dumps    | Press-640-916-Exam    | Brown-640-916-Exam    | Vces-640-916-Exam    | Exams-640-916-Help    | Course-200-355-Online    | IT-Exam-CCNA-    | Dumps-200-355-Training    | Dumps-200-355-Collection    | Dumps-200-355-Exam    | Pass-200-355-Easy    | CCNA-200-355-Dump    | Exam-400-101-PDF    | Exam-98-363-Collection    | Pass-300-070-Exam-Cert    | IT-Exam-300-070-Answers    | Exams-300-070-Cert    | Pass-300-070-Online-Exam    | Best-Dumps-300-070-Exam    | Testing-300-070-Online    | Latestp-300-070-Exam    | 2017-Online-300-070-Exam    | Guaranteed-300-070-Pass    | Exam-200-125-Exam-Vce    | Pass-210-065-Cert    | Exam-300-101-Pass    | IT-Cert-400-101-Exam    | 2017-Latest-70-410-Exam    | Get-Latest-70-461-Exam    | Questions-300-206-Answers    | Test-100-101-Exam    | Exam-Tips-300-206-Online    | IT-Test-300-070-Exam    | IT-Exam-300-070-Win    | Cert-400-101-Leader-Dumps    | Exam-400-101-For-All    | Crack-400-101-Exam    | Exam-Hub-IT-Exam    | Get-Free-300-101-Dumps    |    |    |